B.orientalis juveniles

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I received these a month or so ago, and they are doing great. They are CB 09, in fact they morphed less than two months ago. They are now starting to show development of green coloration, and with the aid of suplements they are developing a very nice red belly.
I´m getting attached to these fellas, which is bad since they are for my brother. I´m just nursing them to adulthood.
 

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Nice B.Orientalis , they are so common but its so hard to find Cb animals
 
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Cheers.
It´s true, for such a common animal they are rarely bred. I suposse like with C.orientalis the problem is that a large number of people own them but do not care for them properly, therefore never allowing them to thrive and breed.
 
Oh,wonderfull. This bombinas are precious,i like the red colour that they are taking. Congratulations and good luck.
 
By the way,What size they achieved?Greetings Azhael:happy:
 
Wenas Adam!
Welcome to the forum.

Your toads are doing great xD They have grown a lot since you gave them to me, and although they are very hard to meassure i think they are just over 3cm long (legs not included).
They are a pleassure to feed, they are already taking sub-adult crickets, and they´ll eat anything from the tweezers.
They also sing everyday, i think i have at least two males....hopefully the third one will be female xD
 
Wow,3cm? Incredible,mine are about 1cm long yet,perhaps because they are a little stressed and eat a little bit. Yours are really monsters,but beware,grow fast means to live less. Greetings,and enjoy it for a long time.:happy:
 
I don't share that opinion (yet). B. orientalis can be fully grown in a year, if well fed, and they can live as long as others, who takes more time to grow.
Do you have any sources? I'm interested in that
 
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I haven´t got documented sources,but a breeder of bombina said me once that one bombina with proper care can live between 15 and 25 years,rather more than they put in a lot of chips. Perhaps because these frogs are normally fed in excess. But sorry,i can not prove it,i´m very young yet. Greetings:wink:
 
in Bombina species a life expectance of 15 years is discussed. There are several accounts on that.
Naturally will the animals die earlier when they never get a time to recover from breeding, this is especially for the female animals. They will get exhausted when breeding is over "exercised".

I think it is a good idea to raise the youngsters fast to adulthood and than give them the chace to recover in hibernation for some weeks months.

There are also investigations that you may induce breeding more than one time a year, but no hint on life expectance is given, but probably lower. For the "success" of the species it may be not relevant.

Best Regards

Uwe
 
Is possible that this life expectance can be calculated with the normal cycle of bombina.My Bombina orientalis are in a outside terrarium in direct contact with the environment. It perhaps makes that they continue a normal cycle,taking their winter break during a few months. Maybe this migth be causing this breeder say that the bombinas live as. Greetings,and sorry for writing so bad:happy:
 
Years ago, I acquired a group of newly morphed Orientalis. I kept them over a summer and they ate ravenously but never seemed to grow. Their skin acquired some color and texture, but they were still tiny three months later, which always puzzled me. Maybe they weren't warm enough - unheated indoors in UK....I eventually gave them away to a fellow collector at the end of the summer when i went off to Uni.
 
Years ago, I acquired a group of newly morphed Orientalis. I kept them over a summer and they ate ravenously but never seemed to grow. Their skin acquired some color and texture, but they were still tiny three months later, which always puzzled me. Maybe they weren't warm enough - unheated indoors in UK....I eventually gave them away to a fellow collector at the end of the summer when i went off to Uni.

juveniles have to kept warm, and they have to stand in food. Feed them a lot. Then they will grow, and can reach maturity in a year
 
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