Palmate or smooth?

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I'm hopeless at telling the difference between these two. My guess was palmate, can anyone enlighten me? I'd say they were about 6-8cms.
 

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L.helveticus, no doubt about it.
 
Palmate, you can see that this male has a lower crest and just about see the webbing on the hind feet.
 
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